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The Water and the Spirit

Jesus speaks gently with Nicodemus by lamplight in a Jerusalem roof garden as luminous night air suggests the Spirit.
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Today I would like to address something that is commonly misunderstood about the new birth experience. I had a few responses from someone a couple of days ago about a post that I put up about the holy Ghost baptism, and about water baptism. This individual has a particular doctrine that he observes quite zealously, called “The Water and The Spirit.” What this teaching is about actually, is putting a top level priority on water baptism in regard to salvation. I did a post on this subject last year, but since I got these responses from this individual, I would like to clarify the truth of the scriptures on the matter once again. The basis of this common school of thought comes from a misunderstanding of the discussion that Jesus had with the believing Pharisee Nicodemus in John chapter 3. So let’s just copy the core of that conversation here and look at it as it is stated: “The same [Nicodemus] came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (Jn. 3:2-6). Okay, the thinking among many is that in verse 5 Jesus is telling Nicodemus that one must be water baptized and born of the Spirit in order to enter the kingdom of God. Once more that verse goes like this: “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Well, I don’t know about you, but I don’t see anything about water baptism there at all. And I don’t see it anywhere else in the discussion either. That’s because it isn’t there. What IS in the context of the passage is that Jesus was merely answering the question that Nicodemus presented, in regard to HOW Nicodemus asked it. Jesus told him that he had to be born again, and Nicodemus didn’t get it. We wouldn’t have gotten it either if we had been in his place.

At that point Nicodemus was thinking about the ONLY THING he knew about being born - from a mother’s womb. And when he asked if he would have to go back into his mother’s womb to be born again, Jesus addressed what he said, as well as what HE [Jesus] had said TO him about the new birth. If you want to know what Jesus meant in verse 5, then look at verse 6, because IN verse 6 he was STILL explaining this thing to Nicodemus, in regard to what each of them had said. And verse 6 again: “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” Okay, let’s really get this down to simple math, because that is all it is in reality. “Born of water” = “Born of the flesh.” “Born of the Spirit” = “Born of the Spirit.” It really is that simple. Jesus addressed what was asked in simple terms ABOUT what was asked. Nicodemus did not ask anything about water baptism. Jesus did not answer anything about water baptism. Nicodemus asked about going back into his mother’s womb, and Jesus addressed the issue of being born of one’s mother’s womb. Everyone knows that a fetus is preserved in a sack of water in the mother’s womb, and when that water ‘breaks’ the baby is born [of water]. That is the birth of the fleshly man [born of the flesh]. And obviously the spirit man has to be born of God’s Spirit, which is what Jesus came to make the way for. So all that Jesus was telling Nicodemus is that one does have to be born of the womb, as Nicodemus had alluded to, but one must also be “born again” of the Spirit of God. Now that is the totality of the issue of being “born of water and of the Spirit.” That is what is there. What is NOT there is ANYTHING about water baptism. If you want to understand scripture, you have to first read what IS THERE, and not READ INTO IT what is NOT THERE! Secondly you must stay in the context of what you are reading, and not wander somewhere else and put something into the text that is totally OUT OF the context. To put water baptism into that passage of scripture is just reading something into it that simply is not there. For those who do subscribe to that doctrine, meaning water baptism being in that passage, I have to ask this question: How many new births are there? Or how many times must a man be born again? Must we be born again AND again, or just born again? Because if “born of water” means water baptism, then we have a problem. Jesus said that we must be “BORN of water AND of the Spirit,” so if the “born of water” part there is referring to water baptism, then we have TWO NEW BIRTHS on our hands.

There is really no other way to slice that pie. If “born of water” takes place with water baptism, then when we are “born of the Spirit” we are born again for the second time. Sound confusing? Of course it does! When you break down ANY erroneous doctrine for what it is really trying to say, it is ALWAYS a mess. No friend, there is ONE new birth, and it is by receiving the Spirit of God, AS JESUS SAID! The ironic thing here is, that at the time that this discussion took place, everyone who expected to receive the new birth experience DID have to be water baptized first. John the Baptist was ordained by God to baptize in water for the express purpose of giving the people the opportunity to repent of their sins, so that they would be prepared to be baptized by Jesus with the holy Ghost (Mk. 1:7,8). But after Jesus paid the price for our sins with his life, and rose again the third day, he went back to heaven to begin baptizing with the holy Ghost, as God ordained for HIM to do (Acts 1:4,5; Acts 2:1-4). That is the ONE new birth experience that Jesus purchased with his blood. There is no birth of any kind in water baptism. The baptism for the inner man that came as the result of “the resurrection of Jesus Christ,” and truly washes away sin; fulfilled the symbolic baptism for the outer man, which was only given to lead the way to Jesus and his baptism that he administers from heaven (I Pet. 3:21; I Cor. 6:11). The baptism that Jesus suffered, died, and rose again to give, is the ONLY experience that makes anyone a member of the one body of Christ, which one must be born into (I Cor. 12:13; II Cor. 5:17; Eph. 4:4,5). And as the great apostle Paul plainly affirmed in Ephesians 4:5, there is ONLY “one baptism” now. The same apostle clearly said in another place, “But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law” (Gal. 5:18). Water baptism was clearly of the law (Mat. 3:15; Mat. 5:17). The traditions and doctrines of modern Christianity that include and often require that one must be baptized in water, are CONTRARY to what Jesus lived, suffered, died, and rose again for. Period. And anyone who is crusading for and exalting a long dead carnal ordinance of the old covenant, is promoting death rather than life, and is favoring a non-living symbol over the only begotten Son of God, who is “alive for evermore” (II Cor. 3:6; Heb. 8:13; Rev. 1:18). Yes friend, Jesus came that we “might have LIFE, and have it more abundantly,” and that life is his blessed “Spirit OF LIFE” (Jn. 10:10; Rom. 8:2). We simply are not exalting Jesus fully as long as we observe and have regard for ANYTHING that is NOT what he died and rose again to provide (Philip. 3:3). And so I conclude with the admonition of Moses of old: “I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live” (Deut. 30:19). Amen friend, and may God bless.

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Lary R. Hale

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A Hero Finally Rests.

Lary Redman Hale of Louisville, KY entered into his greatest joy, the presence of King Jesus himself, welcomed by the cheers of angels and the saints of God on Sunday night, April 21, 2024.

What the outside world would see as the untimely passing of a humble, local minister, heaven saw as the triumphant finale of a valiant warrior's life. He fought the good fight, having kept the faith, and received what Christ himself called "The Champion's Wreath of Victory".

Lary was born November 13, 1954 to Marvin and Norma Hale. Being the youngest of his siblings ensured he had lots of time with his loving mother, from whom he undoubtedly developed his profound sensitivity, heartfelt sentimentality and emotional comfortability - characteristics that were trademarks of his life. He grew up surrounded by cousins and classmates that became his best friends.

At his 50 year class reunion he was overjoyed and excited to catch up with so many of them, smiling and laughing more than he had in a long time. He would often tell stories of how he treasured those times as a young boy riding bikes, shooting B.B guns and playing with his childhood dog Peanuts; all while getting into assorted harmless mischief. He cherished the time he spent living on his parents houseboat and helping his dad, a united states marine veteran, take care of the boat and dock.

His relationship with his dad was only strengthened in their later years as they watched boxing matches almost every weekend for the remainder of his dad's life. He admired his brother Gary for his athleticism and industrious attitude, and thought his sisters Vicki and Mila had hearts of gold just like his mother. In his teen years Lary developed three of his lifelong loves: swimming, cool cars and lifting weights.

Some people said Lary was part fish because of how well he swam, but Lary would correct them, he was actually part dolphin. As a young man he managed a health club where he helped multiple people lose weight and counted that a huge joy. He loved nature and taking photos of it, honing his skills and knowledge in cameras. His vocabulary was second to none and he enjoyed learning new words and using them especially in his writings.

Before he passed he still exercised as much as his body would allow and he longed to return to the ocean and the white sands of Destin, Florida.

Like most disenfranchised teens in the early 70s, Lary indulged in countless vices that left him empty and searching for more. Although his long black curly hair, loud clothes, muscles and muscle cars made him the envy of the boys and the heartthrob of the girls, none of these things satisfied his heart. He pursued a college education briefly, desiring to be a marine biologist or philosopher but found that this was not what he was missing either - he longed for true fulfillment.

Depressed, empty, and feeling hopeless, Lary heard about a particular beautiful girl he had a crush on that was attending a small church where the "Spirit of God" was changing people's lives. After wondering why someone like her would attend a church like that, he began to attend also.

After a few months, he made a simple prayer on his hands and knees, saying "God I can't stop smoking, drinking, raging or any of the other countless vices I have - but if you can set me free from these things, I'll know you're real and that you want me to serve you". The next morning Lary woke up and described the next few hours as "walking on air" realizing he was, in his words "delivered" and never going back to those vices.

This began his life long commitment to glorifying Jesus, the king of glory, for how he transformed Lary's life from darkness to light. Lary would marry that same beautiful girl, the love of his life, Fay Kustes, and they would have two sons together, Benjamin Isaac and Elisha Daniel. Lary's greatest joy in life was being a husband and father.

He was happiest when he was sharing what he was learning in the bible with his family, and teaching them that knowing God was simplistic and yet powerful - that God was not merely a religious concept, but a powerful savior on a day to day basis. As Lary made it his life's goal to find "the lost sheep", he would tap into his multifaceted creativity that went largely underappreciated.

Lary produced well over a thousand episodes of gospel presentations: self-producing, mixing, editing and encoding both a radio and television show. Between the two, he broadcast for over 30 years. All of this in the analog age, where self produced radio and TV shows were nearly unheard of, especially without any budget whatsoever.

Lary was an evangelist in Louisville and southern Indiana, being asked to preach and teach in multicultural and multi-generational churches across the city. The churches he was most loved and welcomed by were the African-American Baptist and Pentecostal churches that loved and welcomed his passionate, excitable and action packed style of preaching.

Once the dawn of the internet came, he immediately worked to have a website published, making his literature and gospel teachings available. Eventually he'd use social media to teach, preach and encourage believers all across the world. He would spend every night praying with and encouraging christians from every nation until the end of his life. Many of which saw him like a second father and all of whom greatly mourn his passing.

Even though he produced over a thousand episodes of media, taught in multiple churches, mentored in multiple countries, and had multiple printed works of literature, he considered his greatest life's work to be his two sons. One of their earliest memories is Lary saying "the most important job in the world is not preaching the gospel, it's raising kids in the gospel". This threaded through his entire life.

In his final week on earth, he reminisced on his life saying "I see my life as the highest success, because my life's work are my two sons, who I am so incredibly proud of - not for their natural achievements but for their love, humility and personal faith in Jesus that is not only evident in their lives but also in their love. Because of them, I know my life is a true success - and I credit Jesus for all of it".

His sons today see him as the most successful man they will ever know. He succeeded in loving them and never hurting them. Leading them and never controlling them. Being there for them and never leaving them. He was a man that would apologize quickly, forgive quickly, and always encouraged his sons to "get up and go from here". He succeeded in teaching them faith, hope and love in a world starving so badly for all three. His ministry lives on in them.

The lives of everyone touched by their lives are forever indebted to this humble, prayerful man of faith.

He is preceded in death by his father Marvin, mother Norma, sister Mila, sister-in-law Marlene, nephew Adam, aunts, uncles, treasured cousins, and his beloved dog of 18 years, Champ.

Until they are reunited in the glory of heaven, he is survived and will be missed by his sons, Benjamin and Elisha (Katrine), his wife of 30 years, Fay, his brother Gary, His sister Vicki (Dan), his cousins, nieces, nephews, his friends, and those that called him their pastor and teacher.

"The righteous perish, and no man lays it to heart: merciful men are taken away and no one considers that the righteous person is being spared from the evil to come. He shall enter into peace: he shall rest in his bed, having walked in uprightness." Isaiah 57:1&2

A life in pictures and film

Watch the tribute video shared with Lary’s obituary. It brings together moments from his life and footage of the man so many loved.

Video hosted by Tribute Slides through Newcomer Kentuckiana.

Original obituary at Newcomer Kentuckiana

Memories of Lary